the problem of chuck hagel with support in the foreign policy community is shot at from the left and the right. >> i want to put it to you, both. is this the pattern where the trial balloons are getting defeated? first we have susan rice and that was arduous. until she took her name out of contention whatsoever. and now we see chuck hagel kind of going through the same thing on the onset. >> i agree with andrea's analysis. obama now is in a bad position if he does put forth hagel's name and a fight on the hands and then ask why bother? find someone else. >> bob, is that the same assessment you would give or does the president need to say, you know what? if this is the person that i want this is the person that i've got to go for and let the chips fall where they may? >> i think a big picture is president obama wants to lower the temperature in washington and why susan rice's names is withdrawn. that would have been a fight. i don't think he's seeking needless points and vowed to change washington. that didn't happen in the first term and tired of the showdowns and the fights with con